This week, we sit down with three-time Emmy-winning journalist and former E! host Catt Sadler. Catt has spent more than twenty years on-air covering the entertainment industry, but when she left E! after finding out her male co-host was making double what she was, she quickly became a prominent voice in the Time’s Up movement. We discuss what went through her head when she made the big decision to leave, life after E! running her own business, and how she still considers herself a “work in progress.” Plus, don’t miss some of Catt’s sleep routine secrets, as well as an excerpt from Pema Chodron on perfection as her personal practice at the end of the episode.